Causes flickering depth buffer in TES: Oblivion
Please make a video of the issue, I have no idea what you're talking about.
The depth buffer is used for a lot more than just ReShade effects so if DXVK had problems with that, it would be extremely obvious by just playing the game. The game itself renders fine though.
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@K0bin this is what it looks like
And which ReShade shader causes that?
Reshade 6.1.1. Also using an RX 6600, Driver ver. 24.5.1, Dxvk ver. 2.3.1
This causes some issues with shaders like MXAO with visual artifacting, gonna send screenshot in a sec
I can also confirm what the OP posted. Depth buffer works fine on dx9. Things i've tried: turning off forced msaa and anisotropy from dxvk.conf, experimented with all the generic depth buffer options under reshade addon. No dice.
And which ReShade shader causes that?
Oh my bad, I misread that as reshade version. That's just the display depth shader showing that, but the issue can also be observed when using the various debug views from the different shaders. Let me check if turning off all shaders fixes the issue.
Edit: yep, still nothing.
Did you have to install any shaders with ReShade or is it literally just ReShade?
I've tried reproducing both on Nvidia and AMD on Linux but have been unable to so far.
In the "Generic Depth" addon I've set "Copy depth buffer before clear operations" to get it to work. Then i just turn on DisplayDepth with RESHADE_DEPTH_INPUT_IS_REVERSED set to 0.
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Did you have to install any shaders with ReShade or is it literally just ReShade?
I have shaders with reshade.
ReShadePreset.zip
Also my reshade ini and log i guess
reshade.zip
You sent ReShadePreset.ini twice. Don't know if that was intended
You sent ReShadePreset.ini twice. Don't know if that was intended
my bad.
reshade.zip
I am still not reproducing, at least on Linux, using your preset and the settings from your ReShade.ini.
I am using the d3d9 version of reshade fwiw
I am still not reproducing, at least on Linux, using your preset and the settings from your ReShade.ini. I am using the d3d9 version of reshade fwiw
Am using windows 11 like op if it makes a difference. Also here's a vid of the issue https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMfvoKc8w4o
Make sure you don't have any other Vulkan layers installed.
Make sure you don't have any other Vulkan layers installed.
I don't remember consciously installing any. I don't know what a Vulkan layer is either. How do I check?
Can you send a dxvk log by the way. It should appear next to the games exe
Can you send a dxvk log by the way. It should appear next to the games exe
Oblivion_d3d9.zip
is it this?
Does it work if you remove your samplerAnisotropy config? That can cause problems.
Does it work if you remove your samplerAnisotropy config? That can cause problems.
@K0bin nope. Removed dxvk.conf altogether. Disabling anisotropy and msaa doesnt work.
@tiramoi Which API do you use for Reshade along with dxvk? d3d9 or Vulkan?
Using the Vulkan version on Windows (didn't work out of the box on Linux) i can see that the DisplayDepth option is kinda fecked with dxvk. Though not exactly in the same way as shown in your screenshot. More like it blinks wildly or doesn't show anything when looking certain directions.
The d3d9 version along with dxvk still works fine though. Was also what i used on Linux.
@Blisto91 Vulkan. When installing reshade, I chose vulkan when it asked me what api to use.
How do I use d3d9 along with dxvk?
@Blisto91 also dx9 on windows 11 have issues for me for oblivion. Can't use the HDR option in oblivion, and if I use a workaround for fixing HDR, it breaks the shadows. I just hope using d3d9 with dxvk wont carry over those issues
How do I use d3d9 along with dxvk?
If you install the d3d9 version of reshade and then just leave that d3d9.dll with the game you can put the dxvk dll in another folder and then point to that folder with environment variable RESHADE_MODULE_PATH_OVERRIDE. Will make reshade use it instead of the Windows system one.
How do I use d3d9 along with dxvk?
If you install the d3d9 version of reshade and then just leave that
d3d9.dllwith the game you can put the dxvk dll in another folder and then point to that folder with environment variableRESHADE_MODULE_PATH_OVERRIDE. Will make reshade use it instead of the Windows system one.
Will that enforce vulkan hdr compatible swapchains by doing that? Or will it essentially make it dx9 and hdr wont work?
I'm a tester fwiw not a dev. Do you just mean the games own "HDR" option?
Nah, Vulkan makes dx9 games compatible with HDR such as windows autoHDR or Special-K etc. Im just wondering if doing your proposal would make the actual renderer dx9 again and therefore disabling the possibility to use HDR.
I have no idea how Reshade works if you mean as a side effect of that. It would still be using dxvk (Vulkan) in this scenario.
Try i guess.
Either way this very much seems like it's not a DXVK bug but rather a bug with something else on your system. Some Vulkan layer or maybe ReShade or SpecialK.
Seeing this happen on fresh Windows install too (with ReShade VK applied), though only once OR is installed, without OR it seems no depth buffers are valid for ReShade.
With native D3D9 + OR, ReShade shows 2 clears for the depth buffer consistently, and no flicker happens.
With DXVK + OR, ReShade usually shows 5 clears for the depth buffer, but sometimes seems to add an extra clear for 1 frame, which throws off the detection and causes flicker.
OR.E3.3.3.2mc.Mcstfuerson.Preset.zip from https://github.com/mcstfuerson/TES-Reloaded/releases/tag/v3.3.2 is the OR build used to test that.
With native D3D9 + OR, ReShade shows 2 clears for the depth buffer consistently, and no flicker happens.
With DXVK + OR, ReShade usually shows 5 clears for the depth buffer, but sometimes seems to add an extra clear for 1 frame, which throws off the detection and causes flicker.
That sounds like a ReShade problem, not a DXVK one. DXVK can't control or influence what ReShade does.
I don't even know whether you're using the D3D9 version of ReShade with DXVK or the Vulkan version of ReShade.
It's ReShade VK as mentioned.
Might have narrowed my issue down to games "Window Reflections" setting, with that turned off the depth flicker mostly disappears & ReShade works fine with it.
That reflections setting uses some fSecondsBetweenWindowUpdate timer to say when to update, default is 10 secs but changing to 1 second makes the flicker constant (now I wonder if timer could be removed from game so the clear for it would be present every frame - probably wouldn't be great for performance though...)
Anyway I guess my issue probably is just down to ReShade's detection, still find it a bit strange that D3D9 doesn't show any extra clears for these reflections though.
Does it look correct with the d3d9 version of reshade + dxvk?
It's ReShade VK as mentioned.
Then it's pretty much guaranteed to be a ReShade bug, not a DXVK one.
DLLs
d3d9.dllx2 2024-07
Without DXVK the depth buffer is working always, but as soon as DXVK is loaded, the depth buffer flickers while moving the camera.
This can be easily seen with Reshade v6.0.1 and the detect depth shader.
Software information
The elder scrolls IV: Oblivion
Default settings.
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