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FIFA 2005 blank player bar

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doitsujin/dxvk#4850 · opened 2025-04-15 by Skoczek777 · updated 2025-08-08 · 35 comments · github
SSkoczek777 2025-04-15 github

I use dxvk for older FIFA games, because my AMD laptop CPU doesn't handle DirectX 8 properly. All of them work fine, but one of them has a visual bug, which degrades the experience. In FIFA 2005, the player bar in bottom left corner is blank. Normally, there should be a name of a player you move at the moment and there's no other indicator for it, so when it's blank, you may have no idea, who are you controlling right now.
If this is something easy to identify and fix, I'd be glad.

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System information

  • Game: FIFA 2005 on all settings maxed out. Tested also on lower resolutions with the same result.
  • GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Laptop GPU
  • Driver: NVIDIA 572.83.0
  • DXVK version: v2.6.1

It's definitely Windows, d3d8 and bug. It may be amd-only, but can't be certain for that

fifa2005_d3d9.log

BBlisto91 2025-04-15 github

Hi there and thank you for the issue.
Are you able to make a apitrace of the game? https://github.com/doitsujin/dxvk/wiki/Using-Apitrace#on-windows
Just get to the part in the game where it usually shows when using dxvk and when we replay it with dxvk it will hopefully reproduce.

SSkoczek777 2025-04-15 github

yeah, sure, but copying apitrace dlls over mine made everything freeze after the language selection

fifa2005trace.zip

BBlisto91 2025-04-15 github

Ye okay that won't work.

Can you next to the games exe try making a file called dxvk.conf (make sure it isn't dxvk.conf.txt if you have file extensions turned off) and insert d3d9.floatEmulation = Strict to see if it then looks proper with dxvk?

SSkoczek777 2025-04-15 github

Can you next to the games exe try making a file called dxvk.conf (make sure it isn't dxvk.conf.txt if you have file extensions turned off) and insert d3d9.floatEmulation = Strict to see if it then looks proper with dxvk?

I need to clarify smth, I didn't copy one dll for apitrace, but after correct copying, the game didn't even initialize outputing the .trace file of only 2 bytes with letters "at" in it, not even worth uploading

As for dxvk.conf file, yeah, it loaded, but just like before. If you expected, forcing d3d9 emulation to go strict will fix the problem, we're out of luck.

SSkoczek777 2025-04-15 github

I also tried an advanced option of apitrace
d3d9 gave these 2 letters and nothing else
d3d8 initalized, but quickly the game closed before even language selection

this is at least smth I can send

fifa2005.1.trace.zip

BBlisto91 2025-04-15 github

What AMD gpu is having the issue and with what driver version?
Trying the demo of the game i haven't managed to reproduce so far.

SSkoczek777 2025-04-15 github

AMD Ryzen 5 8645HS w/ Radeon 760M Graphics
Also, demos can be misleading and not work the same as the full version
Full version of FIFA 10 crashes without patching the exe file to use 4GBs of RAM, this isn't the case with demo

But I'll download FIFA 2005 demo myself to try out and report the results.

SSkoczek777 2025-04-17 github

Ok, I downloaded the demo, which...works and the player bar is there, but with no commentary - only crowd noise.

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BBlisto91 2025-04-17 github

You mean audio is missing?

I have ordered a second hand copy of the full game.

SSkoczek777 2025-04-17 github

not all audio, but in-game commentary

SSkoczek777 2025-05-06 github

any updates on FIFA 2005?

BBlisto91 2025-05-06 github

There was a mixup with the second hand copy I received, so need to order another one.

BBlisto91 2025-05-22 github

The second copy didn't contain a key :P
Third time's the charm hopefully

SSkoczek777 2025-06-26 github

any updates on FIFA 2005?

BBlisto91 2025-06-26 github

Waiting to receive the hopeful final copy of the game

BBlisto91 2025-07-04 github

@Skoczek777 I have not been able to reproduce the issue.
I have installed Fifa 2005 on Windows 11 and tested it with dxvk 2.6.1 on amd, intel and nvidia. This is also with the game resolution set to 1080p

SSkoczek777 2025-07-05 github

what's your CPU?

BBlisto91 2025-07-05 github

Ryzen 9 7950X

SSkoczek777 2025-07-05 github

Do you have any other things I might try out?

BBlisto91 2025-07-05 github

Try making a apitrace again. A update for it came out so worth a try https://github.com/doitsujin/dxvk/wiki/Using-Apitrace
(links in the guide have been updated to download version 13.0)

SSkoczek777 2025-07-05 github

It's such a pain...
I can't even get to a starting screen by either direct or indirect injecting apitrace
This time I tried multiple apis, so maybe you'll help me with getting at least past that

fifa2005traces.zip

SSkoczek777 2025-07-21 github

With having no response in 2 weeks, I did apitrace one last time. With both d3d8 and d3d9 I couldn't go anywhere, but at one desperate attempt, I typed in cmd apitrace.exe trace -a dxgi "F:\Gry - dane\FIFA 2005\fifa2005.exe"

So I traced dx10 and newer and...it booted! What I did then was to go to the match and as quickly as match GUI pops up (blank player bar) and exited the game.
And this is what you probably wanted from me.

dxgififa2005.zip

BBlisto91 2025-07-21 github

Sadly the traces are almost empty and so doesn't contain anything.

SSkoczek777 2025-08-03 github

One last question, what's your compilation of Windows?

BBlisto91 2025-08-04 github

What do you mean? I have Windows 11

SSkoczek777 2025-08-04 github

What version of Windows 11?
The must current is 24H2

SSkoczek777 2025-08-04 github

I ask because smth make me think to run a virtual machine with 23H2 version of Windows 11.
And the bug simply disappeared, so we got our culprit - Microsoft and their stupid update.
It's 24H2 which made me even use dxvk to begin with, not my laptop, so I'm not sure if this is something even in your scope of I just have to hope 25H2, which launches around this time of the year will deal with it somehow.

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BBlisto91 2025-08-04 github

Does the issue disappear outside the VM if you use this build? https://github.com/doitsujin/dxvk/actions/runs/16089016379
It is made with a different compiler

SSkoczek777 2025-08-04 github

First off, what you see on a screenshot wasn't utilizing dxvk or any other tranlation layer other than virtual machine at all
Second, the answer for your question is no
I was using the latest 2.7 release: https://github.com/doitsujin/dxvk/releases/tag/v2.7

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I tend to think this issue is caused on Microsoft side, not on dxvk's side. That'd explain why you don't have problems, you're probably not on 24H2. And I can't downgrade without wiping out my entire drive, so unlucky

BBlisto91 2025-08-04 github

My Windows install is 22H2

SSkoczek777 2025-08-04 github

That explains everything
Idk if that's big of a hassle to you or not, but I guarantee you if you install 24H2 (newest feature) update, you'll face the same issues as I did.

Apart from that, I think I've said everything I could and what you guys are gonna do with it is up to you.
And for anyone crossing this thread I can tell you that if you can revert to 23H2, your problems with this specific problem will be fixed

WWinterSnowfall 2025-08-04 github

For the record, I just got a copy today too and it looks fine. Even played with Poland, same as you have, because I suspected non-ASCII characters might be a cause for this:

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SSkoczek777 2025-08-04 github

What's your Windows 11 version, then? :D

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For the record, I just got a copy today too and it looks fine. Even played
with Poland, same as you have, because I suspected non-ASCII fonts might be
a cause for this:
FIFA2005.png (view on web)
https://github.com/user-attachments/assets/81a95a5b-10d9-4b3e-bc17-1a304761b022


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WWinterSnowfall 2025-08-04 github

What's your Windows 11 version, then? :D

That screenshot was taken under Wine/Linux. When it works fine in such cases, there's not much to go on from our end anyway, but it doesn't seem to be a problem with (d3d) rendering.

BBlisto91 2025-08-08 github

If anything changes or is figured out in regards to this feel free to comment here again

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